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Yvette = Admiral Howe and Liz = Betsy Loring

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1 Yvette = Admiral Howe and Liz = Betsy Loring on Wed Mar 16, 2011 12:07 am

OK, how's this for wild mass guessing?

The historical timeline is the "real" timeline. During the six months Beatrice Whaley spent in the company of Admiral Howe and Betsy Loring, she became friendly with them.

When Alan Warren rescues her, she subconsciously creates an elaborate alternate reality in which she is a high school student with no memory of her time on the ship. Thus, she can honestly tell the American rebels that she doesn't remember any useful information about Admiral Howe, and not betray him.

In her fantasy world, she creates people who represent elements of her real life. Her two best friends are Yvette (representing Howe and sharing his last name) and Liz (who represents Betsy Loring - Liz and Betsy both being nicknames for Elizabeth).

However, Beatrice loves Alan Warren and thus her subconscious serves up a way for her to use her knowledge of Admiral Howe's plans without revealing them directly. In her fantasy world, she sees a painting of the Battle of Bunker Hill and mistakenly believes it is Alan, not his cousin Joseph, that dies there. Thus she rushes out to "save" him and leads Nathan Hale to witness the invading British army.

I don't yet have a guess for the reason for this, but her subconscious also provides a barrier for her romance with Alan in the form of a high school crush on Ben Cato (who is based on her Uncle Hercules' slave Cato, whom she got to know during the time she spent living with her uncle). I'm guessing she's very fond of her uncle AND that she figured out he was spying on the British. Although she presumably did not rat him out to Admiral Howe, she may be experiencing conflicting loyalties which manifests as teenage angst in her "modern day" world.

Of course, I have absolutely no proof to back any of this up. Just speculating. Very Happy

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2 the dreaded first post on Tue Apr 05, 2011 9:49 pm

Soooooo.
Awkward first post thing.

Ehm.

I've actually lurked here for a while, building up the courage to join and post. tongue


I'm really liking the ties between the 18th and 21st century casts. The first one that occurred to me was John and Hamilton. Though I wouldn't say John is a dandy, he does have certain characteristics...
"hot headed, loud mouthed"
"has set his mind on attending Columbia University to study law. Luckily, learning comes easily to him–a bit too easily, however, and being naturally smart has allowed him to become a lazy smart alec."

Anyone who knows anything about Hamilton knows those are all eerily familiar. And Columbia University, too!

Perhaps it's been a long time getting through to me, but now that I've seen the little similarities between characters, I am ALL OVER THAT. And I am perfectly prepared to accept the above theory as canon. Very Happy

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Sakkipeli wrote:Soooooo.
Awkward first post thing.

Ehm.

I've actually lurked here for a while, building up the courage to join and post. tongue


I'm really liking the ties between the 18th and 21st century casts. The first one that occurred to me was John and Hamilton. Though I wouldn't say John is a dandy, he does have certain characteristics...
"hot headed, loud mouthed"
"has set his mind on attending Columbia University to study law. Luckily, learning comes easily to him–a bit too easily, however, and being naturally smart has allowed him to become a lazy smart alec."

Anyone who knows anything about Hamilton knows those are all eerily familiar. And Columbia University, too!

Perhaps it's been a long time getting through to me, but now that I've seen the little similarities between characters, I am ALL OVER THAT. And I am perfectly prepared to accept the above theory as canon. Very Happy

That could work, only it's also mentioned that there's an 18th century version of John Mulligan as well.

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I just did a little more Google searching and it looks like John W. Mulligan was the son of Hercules Mulligan. He was a lawyer who was, for a time, secretary to General Baron von Steuben. I found one page saying John went to "Columbia College."

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I just noticed that the one source says John Mulligan was born in 1769, so maybe the modern day John (who's obviously not 7 years old) is a combination with Hamilton?

Sakkipeli, thanks for joining in! This speculation is fun!

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Doesn't actually make a lot of sense...Kinda shakes the whole thing up amazingly though, but i can't picure how Yvette can be howe in Bea's subconscious...

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